Pete aka Abdul Malik ([info]writtenword7) wrote,
@ 2004-09-25 20:22:00
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Everybody has to LOOK @ THIS!!!


 


It's John Kerry interviewed on MTV


Its fantastic


I honestly think that his ideas arent being displayed by the media


All I see on the news is clips of Kerry "Bush-bashing"


This is much better............


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[info]reblwithacause
2004-09-28 11:15 pm UTC (link)
I saw a post of your on the 3faith dialogue
you mentioned you Jewish and Muslim (same as my cousins)
how do you look at the current situation in Israel?
just curious
take care
-Mihal-

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[info]writtenword7
2004-10-11 11:24 am UTC (link)
salaam/ shalom

uh idk if ure jewish or muslim, not that it really matters lol.

yeah im jewish by blood but muslim by faith.

as far as Palestinian/Isreali problems, its a very hard topic to discuss, since so many people feel so strongly about it. i had felt that israel was right when i was younger cuz i didnt know anything about it at all. when i started learning about it, i starting seeing hings differently. i dont think that it was right that the people who lived in palestine had theyre land taken from them. i think that any jews who were already in palestine were palestinians who deserved to live there jsut as much as a muslim palestinian. thats why i dont see it as a religious issue. i think it is seen as more religious from the jewish perspective. from the muslim perspective i see it more as a territorial issue, really not religious at all. i have tried to learn about wat is going on there but it is very hard to get unbaised infromation. however, i cant understand how people cud think that wat happened back in the day when the land was given to israel was right. i dont see how the british taking a piece of land from a people and making it someone elses is right. God knows that with WWII many jews throughout Euroope were homeless and were refugees. they needed to go somewhere. but to say that all jews need to go to palestine and ONLY palestine is unfair. i do not like the zionist movement at all. i think that wat the israeli government and military are doing now is horrible and is terrorism. i think wat the palestinian terrorists are doing is horrible. but i dont see how suicide bombers are terrorists but a soldier in a tank destroying homes of innocent people is not a terrorist. that is terrorism. but i only here about palestinian terrorists and israeli soldiers. it doesnt matter if u have a bomb or an american M16, if u kill innocent people, men women and children, you are a terrorist. i think that things have been made to seem like the palestinians dont want peace, which is absurd. deals have been put together that have been turned down by palestinian leadership. it is made to look as if they are stuburn when really these deals give barely anything to the palestinian people.

The sad thing is, children, palestinian children, israeli children, have to grow up in this life. where they are surrounded by violence and death. young kids are taught, on both sides, that they have to kill the other side. they see eachother as the enemy. I pary for those kids cuz theyre the next generation. Insha'Allah (God Willing) they will be the ones to fix this horrible mess.

Ameen.

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[info]reblwithacause
2004-10-11 11:45 pm UTC (link)
Shalom/Salam
glad you agree it doesn't matter, I'm Jewish by blood and faith, my cousins are Muslim and Jewish...

As far as Israel I agree it is indeed horrible that both Israeli citizens (of all faith) and Palestinians have to live in such a hosile environment. It pathetic that the children can not socialize and realise they are not so different from one another.

Now the rest...
"i think that wat the israeli government and military are doing now is horrible and is terrorism. i think wat the palestinian terrorists are doing is horrible. but i dont see how suicide bombers are terrorists but a soldier in a tank destroying homes of innocent people is not a terrorist. that is terrorism. but i only here about palestinian terrorists and israeli soldiers. it doesnt matter if u have a bomb or an american M16, if u kill innocent people, men women and children, you are a terrorist. i think that things have been made to seem like the palestinians dont want peace, which is absurd. deals have been put together that have been turned down by palestinian leadership. it is made to look as if they are stuburn when really these deals give barely anything to the palestinian people."
War is terrorism to a degree, but some of what you right on there being no difference between a sucide bomber and a tank driver is the same propaganda that far right pro-Israel people use to justify acts, like those in Lebanon in the 90's. I say if people are going to be savage and fight like they always do through out history dowm soldier vs. soldier not pizza parlor of teenagers vs. soldier. The house bulldozing I dont see as a terrorist act, someone in your family bombs you get out we level your house=dont encourage this there are consequences...its sad that its resorted to this. I wish this had been settled years ago in peace with out the resentment and hate that has multiplied.

About Jews coming to British mandated Palestine they were not sent, actually they had to sneak there from Europe (the Zionist dream) and the rest came from the surrounding Arab countries when they were kicked out (such as Yemen, Iraq, etc). Hostilities between immigrants and residents lead the British to leave and support a particianed state b/c the one state was not functioning...when agreement didn't come from the proposition, I understand why the proposition was not accepted by the Arab population. If someone to stay at my house for a bit I'd be cool, if more people came in and for permanent and then told me hi I'm taking half of your house be happy you get half. I'd be like FU I'm gunna fight and get my whole house. Israel declared statehood the war came many flead knowing that they would get their entire land back...but then they didn't. Hence the Jewish state and no Palestine...its messed up but Arafat and extreamests have consistently sabatoged any efforts of peace and statehood (and some offers have been as much as the partician plan (half), although that is only half of the whole but thats be better then the nothing caos that is now.

Israel means a lot to me, but people are people, religion is nice but many aspects that people bring with it is messed up and over rated. I agree it is not so much religious war as it is one over land and history. What can I say I'm a "traiter" to some because my boyfriend is a Jordanian Christian, it makes me furious that people are so closed minded but its obious people cant see eachother as just people human beings trying to live a fufilling and happy life...in America the one of the few things I can appreciate and that people are allowed to be "just people" they dont have to chose a side a people or a group, thats beautiful I think that was what America was ment to be about not all this non sense material bullshit of pop culture and western-ization of the world.
I've babbled enough
peace
take care
btw where were you born?

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[info]writtenword7
2004-10-16 10:59 pm UTC (link)
yeah i think we would general agree on most things
its cool that were both in unique positions
ure jewish (i think) with a christian arab bf and muslim cuzins
im a muslim jew

and btw i have no problem with israeli people
i have friends and family friends who are israeli citizens
and theyre great people

but what is going on over there is horrible on both sides and its really sad

what would be great wud be if in america jews and muslims, palestinians and israelis, wud unite against the violence. america has such an impact on the world that it wud be the best chance for a solution. in palestine and israel the people dont have all the information cuz its so much propaganda. Insha'Allah (God willing) here we can come together to communicate with the people in middle east and bring peace.

thats me lol

As Salaamu Alaikum/ Shalom Aleicham

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[info]reblwithacause
2004-10-17 01:34 pm UTC (link)
It would be nice if here we could form an alliance to try to bring a peaceful solution, but there are obstilcles. There is a paradox, its hard to fully understand a situation unless your there, and there its hard to see outside to find a solution. It seems to me an effort of Israeli's and Arabs in Israel together with American Jews/Israeli's and Arabs could come up with something that has both outside aspect and inside understanding.
:) Salam/Shalom

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